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Original Site Posting: 24 February 2001 || Last Site Update: 6 May 2008
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	4th Marines Chapter American Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor American Ex-Prisoners of War
		In Memorial Updated 6 May 2008

Known Survivors	Status Unknown	Attached Personnel	4th Battalion
4th Marines Reunion & ADBC Convention Last Updated: 25 March 2008

Surrendered? Yes, it can not be denied.
Defeated? No, not the ones I've met.

Some Past Reunion Pictures

NEW (most recent update, 14 November 2007) Not a web site, but located here - Fred Greguras (a Vietnam Veteran Marine) has visited Shanghai 5 times since October 2006, and is tracking down some of the Old China Marines Shanghai haunts. Fred sent an MS Word Document (31DEC06, which I posted with his permission) for you to download, study (Update#06, 14NOV07, see footnotes at bottom of each page, and resource list at end of text, for additional information), and comment upon back to Fred. If you have an old map of the place, or wish to share personal knowledge or insights, he'd like to hear from you. Fred also provided (25FEB07) a copy of the Fourth U.S. Marine Telephone Directory - May 1940 in PDF format.

Web Sites with Stories and Pictures about The Old 4th Marines:
Sort of new (highly recommended by The QUAN) -- US-Japan Dialogue on POWs -- a Bilingual website to aid the Japanese in understanding the plight of former POWs. David George (Pete George's Son) -- China Marines, well done, with many good pictures (even a replica of Old Blue, a series of Shanghai, and a series of/by Louis E. "Peep Sight" Duncun). Marines in China before World. War Two: Marine's in the Pacific in the 1920's and 1930's -- a Father's Collection, presented by Jim Shaw Tails of Old Shanghai -- Tails of Old Shanghai, updated, and very nicely so. You would have had to actually been there to appreciate all the stuff. Chuck MacPuzl's Father's Personal History -- a Shanghai Marine in the mid-1930's, with some excellent pictures Marines in Shanghai -- 1905-1941 Scuttlebutt Historical Galleries -- China Marines, with some excellent pictures (Shanghai in the late 20's) Naval Affairs Magazine -- PART 1, Gunboat Marines, November 2000, by Walter Ashe. PART 2, The Asiatic Fleet 4th Marines, December 2000, by Walter Ashe. History of U.S. Marine Corps Operations in World War II -- Vol. I: Pearl Harbor to Guadalcanal, you will want to read all of Part IV -- The Marines in the Philippines. It is extensive and has many pictures and maps. The Corregidor Historical Society -- Corregidor - THEN and NOW -- well done, and extensive (maps, stories, pictures and links). Wes Injerd's Web Site -- Fukuoka, Japan, Prisoner of War Camp #1, and a great deal more. Hell Ships -- Oryoku Maru OnLine Junyo Maru Collection at ADBC Web Site Collection at Japanese-pow Web Site Hell Ships Memorial Organization -- NEW! The Fourth Marines Lineage First Battalion 4th Marines Association Second Battalion 4th Marines Association Third Battalion 4th Marines Association The Marine Corps Legacy Museum - These folks are still looking for a few good Marines (from the Old 4th) to help them with an oral history project. Roger Mansell's Web Site -- Allied POWS under the Japanese in World War II
Please, don't let Your Personal Story be lost. If you can not type, tell it to a son or daughter (grand son, grand daughter, friend, someone) and have them type it up. If they can post it to the web, I'll link to it. If they can't post it on the web, I'll either make room for it here, or we will get it posted on the ADBC site.
We still need one (or more) of the Cavite / Olongapo / Mariveles Marines to write up (publish) their unit histories (whatever is known about them before being absorbed into the 4th Marines). There is more information available concerning the 4th Battalion, 4th Marines (April 9 - May 6, 1942), than the Marines in the Philippines in the 1930's.

The 4th Marines Band

And there is even a reenacting/living history group 4th China Marine web site.

Actually they are reenactor of the 4th Division USMC, which formed some time after the loss of the 4th Marine Regiment.
I provided the official history book of their organization to their web master, in the hope he would correct their error.
Well, I guess if you count the 4th Regimental Combat Team, 4th USMC Division as the Old 4th replacement ...

Built and maintained as an honor to the 4th Marines. Copyright © 2001-2008, Jack E. Turner. All rights reserved A dedication site, on behalf of my Father (Former POW / 100% Service Connected Disabled) Gerald Ade "Rosy" Turner, CWO2, USMC (5 March 1915 - 8 May 2006)

Rules Of Engagement

I am a Life Member of the American Ex-Prisoners of War (Card #37665, next-of-kin). I am also an Associate Life Member of the American Defenders of Bataan and Corregidor (Card #7050). I am not a member of the 4th Marines Chapter, because the original members have chosen not to have associate/next of kin members (they remain a last man standing organization). I was in the process of putting my Dad's stuff together in late 2000, to put up on the web. Then in January 2001 a letter from Pat Hitchcock told us about David George's (Pete George's Son) China Marine site, and asked if anyone out there would put up something about the other USMC units that were absorbed into the 4th Marines after they arrived in the Philippines. I decided to take Pat's challange, along with posting my Dad's stuff. There is very little published about the history of the Marines units stationed in the Philippines between 1924 and 1941. I am trying to collect/draw together as much as I can, but you guy's were there. You guy's experienced it. If you will share it with me, I will share it with the world. ~ Jack Turner

This is an UnOfficial Marine Corps Brat Site, 'cause my Mom says I wasn't a Brat.
(14 addresses and 12 schools through High School? She has selective memories.)

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